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| "In the early spring of 1843 James Stark rented a farm at Broughton and lived there two years. In 1845 he rented another farm at Shepton Beauchan for three years (where Benjamin, Elizabeth and William were born). The renting of the farm at Shepton Beauchan proved very disastrous, and in the Spring of 1849 they moved to Burrow Hill Farm with Mother Stark (where James was born). In the early part of May 1850 and after six weeks voyage, they arrived in America. Landing in NY, and after a day or two, they took a boat for Albany. The boat arrived in Albany at 6a.m. and as the children were asleep, Mother and Father Stark did not wish to disturb them, so they stayed on the boat until they reached Troy, where they stayed onlya few days, and then moved to Lansingburg, N.Y. where Mary H. Stark's mother, who had come with them from England died and is buried. In the Fall of 1850 the family moved to Niskayuna, NY (where John and Harriet were born). About the year1860 they moved to Irelands Corners (where Arthur, Frank, Charles Newton, Charles Samuel, and James were born). In the Spring of 1870 the family moved to Hudson NY and in the Spring of 1877 James Stark wife and unmarried children moved to Toledo OH. " 4 >From: C Maginnis <mac351@compaq.net> >To: jhughes@changesurfer.com <jhughes@changesurfer.com> >: >Dear James, > >I still haven't found my write-up on the Stark-Wells-Hebditch families or my >published booklet, but I have found some of my data on Benjamin Stark. In >case you have not had time to look up his family since I last wrote, I >enclose the census reports. > > The name Stark means strong in German; inhabitants of Saxony bearing this >name settled in Scotland and on an island off the southern coast of England. >Although the line of Ben Stark has not been traced back farther than >himself, his father's name must have been James, for Ben's sons >were named according to tradition: the oldest for his father, the second >for his wife's father and the third for Ben himself. > >1 Benjamin Stark b. 1780 Devonshire; d. 1840 Burrow Hill, Somerset > m. Upottery, Devonshire July 30, 1806 Dinah E. Lentell > dau. of John Lenthal and Eliz. Diamond of Yarcombe & Upottery > b. 1786 Yarcombe, Devon; d. 1853 Burrow Hill, Somerset > Residence: Upottery; moved to Burrow Hill in 1838 > Occupation: Farmer > Religion: Anglican > 2 Hannah, b. 1807 Upottery; m. Upottery Jan. 4, 1826 William C. Newton > 3 Elizabeth, b. 1809 Upottery; m. 1838 Isaac Humphrey, b. 1799 > 4 Harriet, b.ca. 1811 Upottery; d. young > 5 James, b. Dec. 15, 1814 Upottery > 6 John b.ca. 1817 Upottery > 7 Benjamin Jr., b. 1821 Upottery; d.s.p.; bd. Middle Lambrook > 8 Dinah, b. 1825 Upottery; m. 1843 Richard Humphrey, b. 1824 Kingsbury > > Benjamin Stark married Dinah Lentell, bpt. June 4, 1786 in Yarcombe >5 mi... west of Chard, whose siblings were: Lydia bpt. Oct. 31, 1784 >Upottery, Martha, bpt. Sept. 29, 1788 Yarcombe, and Matthew bpt. Sept. >16, 1792 Yarcombe, who married Mary Baker on Jan. 7, 1818 in Upottery. >Their parents, John and Elizabeth Lenthal, were married in Upottery on June >15, 1783. John's parents may have been John and Elizabeth Lenthale who were >married on Dec. 25, 1753 in Yarcombe. Ben and Dinah had four daughters >including Becky named for Dinah's mother, a dau. named for Dinah, and Hannah >and Harriet, one of whom may have been named after Ben's mother. Three >children (Hannah, Dinah and James) named a daughter Harriet; a daughter of >James was named Harriet Martha for both his deceased sister and his aunt, >Martha Lentell. > > There were three Starks married in Upottery who may have been related >to Ben Stark: William Stark who married Mary Pike on Sept. 19, 1815; >James Stark who married Betsy Bishop Mar. 20, 1821, and James Stark who >married Elizabeth Wells Aug. 29, 1824. William and James Stark may have >been brothers of Benjamin Stark, and it is even possible that Elizabeth >Wells was his stepmother. The oldest daughter of Ben and Dinah married in >Upottery in 1826 and Harriet died young, but the Starks moved to Burrow >Hill, Somerset, in 1838 with the rest of their children. > > Hannah Stark married William C. Newton, who according to the Mormon files >was the son of William Caswell Newton and Jane Hurford whose children were >William Caswell Jr. baptized June 24, 1798, John Caswell baptized May 14, >1800, and Samuel Caswell born 1804, all in Upottery. Hannah and William >lived in Upottery and Kingsbury, but must have died before 1851, leaving 2 >daughters in the care of their grandmother at Burrow Hill farm. Benjamin >Stark died in 1850 and the following year his widow was listed in the census >with her younger son, her youngest daughter with her husband and daughter >Harriet, and the two daughters of Hannah. > >England 1851 Somerset 442 Burrow Hill: Dinah Stark widow 65 b. Devon 150 A >employing 10 laborers, son Benjamin 30 b. Upottery farmer, sil Richard >Humphrey 27 Kingsbury farmer, dau. Dinah 26 Upottery, gdau. Harriet Humphrey >6 b. Kingsbury scholar, gdau. Elizabeth Newton 3 b. Kingsbury, and gdau. >Harriet Newton 11 b. Upottery scholar. > > Elizabeth Stark married Isaac Humphrey who was born in West Lambrook in >1799. They raised their family on farms in East Lambrook and Middle >Lambrook. When they were listed in the census in 1851, the household >included three daughters, a son, Isaac's sister, and a hired hand. > >England 1851 Somerset 474 Middle Lambrook: Isaac Humphrey 52 b. West >Lambrook farmer, Elizabeth 42 b. Upottery, Dinah 12 b. East Lambrook, Martha >10 b. East Lambrook, Isaac 7 East Lambrook Elizabeth 5 East Lambrook, Billah >Humphrey sister 70 West Lambrook, and James Hodges 20 b. Shepton Beauchamp. > >5 James Stark, b. Dec. 15, 1814 Upottery; d. Aug. 2, 1889 Toledo, Oh. > m. Kingsbury, Kingsbury Episcopi, Apr. 30, 1841 Mary Hebditch Wells > b. May 17, 1821 Middle Lambrook; d. May 5, 1909 Toledo, Ohio > dau. of Rev. John Wells 1781-1840 and Mary Ann Hebditch 1786-1850 > Residence: Burrow Hill, East Lambrook, Shepton Beauchamp, England > and Troy, Lansingburg, Nickayuna, and Ireland's Corners, N.Y. > Occupation: Farmer > Religion: Protestant > 9 Mary Ann, b. Jan. 31, 1842 Burrow Hill; d. Aug. 6, 1909 > 10 Evaline Lentell, b. Feb. 27, 1843 East Lambrook; d. Feb. 19, 1869 > 11 Benjamin J., b. July 22, 1845 Shepton Beauchamp; d. Oct. 22, 1882 > 12 Elizabeth, b. Jan. 30, 1847 Shepton Beauchamp; d. Oct. 5, 1925 > 13 Wm... Hebditch, b. July 30, 1848 Shepton Beauchamp; d. June 1, 1935 > 14 James, b. Nov. 10, 1849 Burrow Hill; d. Feb. 5, 1865 ae 16 > 15 John Wells, b. Nov. 5, 1852 Lansingburg; d. young > 16 Harriet Martha, b. Apr. 15, 1854 Nickayuna; d. Sept. 29, 1945 > 17 John Wells 2nd, b. Aug. 7, 1857 Nickayuna; d. Feb. 4, 1896 > 18 Arthur W., b. Jan. 31, 1861 Ireland's Corners; d. Apr. 14, 1898 > 19 Frank Humphrey, b. May 16, 1852 Ireland's Corners: d. Erie, Pa. > 20 Charles Newton, b. Nov. 5, 1863 Ireland's Corners; d. Dec. 1875 ae 2 > 21 Charles Sam., b. July 6, 1866 Ireland's Corners; d. July 10, 1912 > 22 James Lentell, b. Apr. 19, 1869 Ireland's Corners; d. Apr. 7, 1953 > > James Stark married Mary Hebditch Wells, the daughter of John Wells and >Mary Hebditch of Middle Lambrook, in Kingsbury Episcopi; the minister in >confirmed their marriage and the date it took place. The original Catholic >church was built by the inhabitants of Kingsbury; each section of the >masonry being signed by the man who did the work. As was typical at the >time, the main part of the church was separated from the choir where the >priests and monks held their services. During the reformation Cromwell >smashed every religious icon on the church and inside the Anglicans took >down the screen and added a pulpit, lectern and pews. > > After the Five Mile Act was passed, an independent church was built at >Middle Lambrook exactly five miles from Kingsbury. In 1967 Middle Lambrook >still consisted of only a church, a manse, a manor, and one block of row >houses. The village is so small that the English Travel Bureau did not know >where it was located, and it was discovered by accident while trailing >soldiers on maneuvers in hopes of asking for help. John Wells became the >minister at the Independent Church at Middle Lambrook and Benjamin Jr.. >and the families of Elizabeth Stark Humphrey and James Stark became >members. In his old age, Ben was taken care of by the Dwyers who owned >the house at the end of the row next to the pasture land. He was buried in >the church cemetery; his grave was located by Frank G. Smith before he >returned to the States after W.W.I, but Benjamin's tombstone was missing >in 1974 when the Hebditches were providing a congregation by transporting >the aged to church every Sunday, for if they stopped the church lands would >go to charity. Both the Dwyers and the Hebditches entertained Dolph and >Erma Stark and the Maginnises in their homes and supplied information >about the early Stark, Wells, Hebditch, Gifford, and Weare families. The >Hebditches showed the Maginnis the Hebditch family Record Book which >contained records of all the marriages of their ancestors. This may be the >book owned now by James Hughes which he refers to as a diary. > >Remarks: I did not think Burrow Hill was in Kingsbury; for according to the >census they are both townships in Somerset. Benjamin's wife's name should be >spelled Lentell. Dinah was baptized in Yarcombe on June 4, 1786; the census >also gives her birth as 1786, being 65 in 1851. Women often lied and gave >themselves a younger age in the census, but it is very rare for a woman to >make herself older. > >The history says that James emigrated because his younger siblings were >too young to leave home, but that did not turn out to be true. The reason >James had to emigrate although he was the rightful heir of the Burrow Hill >farm is that he had 6 people in his household, while Benjamin was unmarried >at the age of 28. Besides, Benjamin was taking care of their mother while >James took care of Mrs. Wells. Dinah had only 3 people in her household >including her husband and daughter Harriet and she was needed to maintain a >home for Benjamin. Taking into consideration the Stark habit of being >sensitive to the needs of others, it is not surprising that James gave up >his inheritance for the benefit of his family. I assume that John had died, >or left home. I have not discovered if Isaac Humphrey was a relation of >Richard Humphrey, but the odds are 99% that he was. > >>>"In the early spring of 1843 James Stark rented a farm at Broughton and >>>lived there two years. In 1845 he rented another farm at Shepton Beauchan >>>for three years (where Benjamin, Elizabeth and William were born). >>>The renting of the farm at Shepton Beauchan proved very disastrous, and in >>>the Spring of 1849 they moved to Burrow Hill Farm with Mother Stark (where >>>James was born). In the early part of May 1850 and after six weeks voyage, >>>they arrived in America. Landing in NY, and after a day or two, they took >>>a boat for Albany. The boat arrived in Albany at 6a.m. and as the children >>>were asleep, Mother and Father Stark did not wish to disturb them, so they >>>stayed on the boat until they reached Troy, where they stayed onlya few >>>days, and then moved to Lansingburg, N.Y. where Mary H. Stark's mother, >>>who had come with them from England died and is buried. In the Fall of >>>1850 the family moved to Niskayuna, NY (where John and Harriet were born). >>>They then moved to Irelands Corners where Arthur, Frank, Charles Newton, >>>Charles Samuel, and James were born. In the Spring of 1870 the >>>family moved to Hudson NY and in the Spring of 1877 James Stark wife and >>>unmarried children moved to Toledo OH. " >>> >This is not correct. I wasted days trying to find the ship they arrived in >at the National Archives. It turned out that the Starks sailed to New York >on a freighter which stopped to unload part of their stores. They were >supposed to get off, but the children were sleeping so they stayed on the >the ship and as a result there is no record of their arrival. There were no >customs men to interrogate them when they disembarked on the Hudson >River. James left his family in rooms in Troy while he looked for work. >He finally gave up hope and dropped to his knees in a field to pray to God >for help. A religious group of non-farmers had established themselves in >N.Y. and a member saw James in the field. He offered him the job of man- >aging one of the their farms, and he did such a good job that at the end of >a year, they built him a brick house. >> >>> Mary Anne (1842-1912) >>> Frank Humphrey (1863-1934) >>> Elizabeth (1848-) >>> >These dates disagree with my charts. > >Sincerely, Carol Maginnis Family moved to Burrow Hill Farm in 1838. 4 >From: C Maginnis <mac351@compaq.net> >To: jhughes@changesurfer.com <jhughes@changesurfer.com> >: >Dear James, > >I still haven't found my write-up on the Stark-Wells-Hebditch families or my >published booklet, but I have found some of my data on Benjamin Stark. In >case you have not had time to look up his family since I last wrote, I >enclose the census reports. > > The name Stark means strong in German; inhabitants of Saxony bearing this >name settled in Scotland and on an island off the southern coast of England. >Although the line of Ben Stark has not been traced back farther than >himself, his father's name must have been James, for Ben's sons >were named according to tradition: the oldest for his father, the second >for his wife's father and the third for Ben himself. > >1 Benjamin Stark b. 1780 Devonshire; d. 1840 Burrow Hill, Somerset > m. Upottery, Devonshire July 30, 1806 Dinah E. Lentell > dau. of John Lenthal and Eliz. Diamond of Yarcombe & Upottery > b. 1786 Yarcombe, Devon; d. 1853 Burrow Hill, Somerset > Residence: Upottery; moved to Burrow Hill in 1838 > Occupation: Farmer > Religion: Anglican > 2 Hannah, b. 1807 Upottery; m. Upottery Jan. 4, 1826 William C. Newton > 3 Elizabeth, b. 1809 Upottery; m. 1838 Isaac Humphrey, b. 1799 > 4 Harriet, b.ca. 1811 Upottery; d. young > 5 James, b. Dec. 15, 1814 Upottery > 6 John b.ca. 1817 Upottery > 7 Benjamin Jr., b. 1821 Upottery; d.s.p.; bd. Middle Lambrook > 8 Dinah, b. 1825 Upottery; m. 1843 Richard Humphrey, b. 1824 Kingsbury > > Benjamin Stark married Dinah Lentell, bpt. June 4, 1786 in Yarcombe >5 mi... west of Chard, whose siblings were: Lydia bpt. Oct. 31, 1784 >Upottery, Martha, bpt. Sept. 29, 1788 Yarcombe, and Matthew bpt. Sept. >16, 1792 Yarcombe, who married Mary Baker on Jan. 7, 1818 in Upottery. >Their parents, John and Elizabeth Lenthal, were married in Upottery on June >15, 1783. John's parents may have been John and Elizabeth Lenthale who were >married on Dec. 25, 1753 in Yarcombe. Ben and Dinah had four daughters >including Becky named for Dinah's mother, a dau. named for Dinah, and Hannah >and Harriet, one of whom may have been named after Ben's mother. Three >children (Hannah, Dinah and James) named a daughter Harriet; a daughter of >James was named Harriet Martha for both his deceased sister and his aunt, >Martha Lentell. > > There were three Starks married in Upottery who may have been related >to Ben Stark: William Stark who married Mary Pike on Sept. 19, 1815; >James Stark who married Betsy Bishop Mar. 20, 1821, and James Stark who >married Elizabeth Wells Aug. 29, 1824. William and James Stark may have >been brothers of Benjamin Stark, and it is even possible that Elizabeth >Wells was his stepmother. The oldest daughter of Ben and Dinah married in >Upottery in 1826 and Harriet died young, but the Starks moved to Burrow >Hill, Somerset, in 1838 with the rest of their children. > > Hannah Stark married William C. Newton, who according to the Mormon files >was the son of William Caswell Newton and Jane Hurford whose children were >William Caswell Jr. baptized June 24, 1798, John Caswell baptized May 14, >1800, and Samuel Caswell born 1804, all in Upottery. Hannah and William >lived in Upottery and Kingsbury, but must have died before 1851, leaving 2 >daughters in the care of their grandmother at Burrow Hill farm. Benjamin >Stark died in 1850 and the following year his widow was listed in the census >with her younger son, her youngest daughter with her husband and daughter >Harriet, and the two daughters of Hannah. > >England 1851 Somerset 442 Burrow Hill: Dinah Stark widow 65 b. Devon 150 A >employing 10 laborers, son Benjamin 30 b. Upottery farmer, sil Richard >Humphrey 27 Kingsbury farmer, dau. Dinah 26 Upottery, gdau. Harriet Humphrey >6 b. Kingsbury scholar, gdau. Elizabeth Newton 3 b. Kingsbury, and gdau. >Harriet Newton 11 b. Upottery scholar. > > Elizabeth Stark married Isaac Humphrey who was born in West Lambrook in >1799. They raised their family on farms in East Lambrook and Middle >Lambrook. When they were listed in the census in 1851, the household >included three daughters, a son, Isaac's sister, and a hired hand. > >England 1851 Somerset 474 Middle Lambrook: Isaac Humphrey 52 b. West >Lambrook farmer, Elizabeth 42 b. Upottery, Dinah 12 b. East Lambrook, Martha >10 b. East Lambrook, Isaac 7 East Lambrook Elizabeth 5 East Lambrook, Billah >Humphrey sister 70 West Lambrook, and James Hodges 20 b. Shepton Beauchamp. > >5 James Stark, b. Dec. 15, 1814 Upottery; d. Aug. 2, 1889 Toledo, Oh. > m. Kingsbury, Kingsbury Episcopi, Apr. 30, 1841 Mary Hebditch Wells > b. May 17, 1821 Middle Lambrook; d. May 5, 1909 Toledo, Ohio > dau. of Rev. John Wells 1781-1840 and Mary Ann Hebditch 1786-1850 > Residence: Burrow Hill, East Lambrook, Shepton Beauchamp, England > and Troy, Lansingburg, Nickayuna, and Ireland's Corners, N.Y. > Occupation: Farmer > Religion: Protestant > 9 Mary Ann, b. Jan. 31, 1842 Burrow Hill; d. Aug. 6, 1909 > 10 Evaline Lentell, b. Feb. 27, 1843 East Lambrook; d. Feb. 19, 1869 > 11 Benjamin J., b. July 22, 1845 Shepton Beauchamp; d. Oct. 22, 1882 > 12 Elizabeth, b. Jan. 30, 1847 Shepton Beauchamp; d. Oct. 5, 1925 > 13 Wm... Hebditch, b. July 30, 1848 Shepton Beauchamp; d. June 1, 1935 > 14 James, b. Nov. 10, 1849 Burrow Hill; d. Feb. 5, 1865 ae 16 > 15 John Wells, b. Nov. 5, 1852 Lansingburg; d. young > 16 Harriet Martha, b. Apr. 15, 1854 Nickayuna; d. Sept. 29, 1945 > 17 John Wells 2nd, b. Aug. 7, 1857 Nickayuna; d. Feb. 4, 1896 > 18 Arthur W., b. Jan. 31, 1861 Ireland's Corners; d. Apr. 14, 1898 > 19 Frank Humphrey, b. May 16, 1852 Ireland's Corners: d. Erie, Pa. > 20 Charles Newton, b. Nov. 5, 1863 Ireland's Corners; d. Dec. 1875 ae 2 > 21 Charles Sam., b. July 6, 1866 Ireland's Corners; d. July 10, 1912 > 22 James Lentell, b. Apr. 19, 1869 Ireland's Corners; d. Apr. 7, 1953 > > James Stark married Mary Hebditch Wells, the daughter of John Wells and >Mary Hebditch of Middle Lambrook, in Kingsbury Episcopi; the minister in >confirmed their marriage and the date it took place. The original Catholic >church was built by the inhabitants of Kingsbury; each section of the >masonry being signed by the man who did the work. As was typical at the >time, the main part of the church was separated from the choir where the >priests and monks held their services. During the reformation Cromwell >smashed every religious icon on the church and inside the Anglicans took >down the screen and added a pulpit, lectern and pews. > > After the Five Mile Act was passed, an independent church was built at >Middle Lambrook exactly five miles from Kingsbury. In 1967 Middle Lambrook >still consisted of only a church, a manse, a manor, and one block of row >houses. The village is so small that the English Travel Bureau did not know >where it was located, and it was discovered by accident while trailing >soldiers on maneuvers in hopes of asking for help. John Wells became the >minister at the Independent Church at Middle Lambrook and Benjamin Jr.. >and the families of Elizabeth Stark Humphrey and James Stark became >members. In his old age, Ben was taken care of by the Dwyers who owned >the house at the end of the row next to the pasture land. He was buried in >the church cemetery; his grave was located by Frank G. Smith before he >returned to the States after W.W.I, but Benjamin's tombstone was missing >in 1974 when the Hebditches were providing a congregation by transporting >the aged to church every Sunday, for if they stopped the church lands would >go to charity. Both the Dwyers and the Hebditches entertained Dolph and >Erma Stark and the Maginnises in their homes and supplied information >about the early Stark, Wells, Hebditch, Gifford, and Weare families. The >Hebditches showed the Maginnis the Hebditch family Record Book which >contained records of all the marriages of their ancestors. This may be the >book owned now by James Hughes which he refers to as a diary. > >Remarks: I did not think Burrow Hill was in Kingsbury; for according to the >census they are both townships in Somerset. Benjamin's wife's name should be >spelled Lentell. Dinah was baptized in Yarcombe on June 4, 1786; the census >also gives her birth as 1786, being 65 in 1851. Women often lied and gave >themselves a younger age in the census, but it is very rare for a woman to >make herself older. > >The history says that James emigrated because his younger siblings were >too young to leave home, but that did not turn out to be true. The reason >James had to emigrate although he was the rightful heir of the Burrow Hill >farm is that he had 6 people in his household, while Benjamin was unmarried >at the age of 28. Besides, Benjamin was taking care of their mother while >James took care of Mrs. Wells. Dinah had only 3 people in her household >including her husband and daughter Harriet and she was needed to maintain a >home for Benjamin. Taking into consideration the Stark habit of being >sensitive to the needs of others, it is not surprising that James gave up >his inheritance for the benefit of his family. I assume that John had died, >or left home. I have not discovered if Isaac Humphrey was a relation of >Richard Humphrey, but the odds are 99% that he was. > >>>"In the early spring of 1843 James Stark rented a farm at Broughton and >>>lived there two years. In 1845 he rented another farm at Shepton Beauchan >>>for three years (where Benjamin, Elizabeth and William were born). >>>The renting of the farm at Shepton Beauchan proved very disastrous, and in >>>the Spring of 1849 they moved to Burrow Hill Farm with Mother Stark (where >>>James was born). In the early part of May 1850 and after six weeks voyage, >>>they arrived in America. Landing in NY, and after a day or two, they took >>>a boat for Albany. The boat arrived in Albany at 6a.m. and as the children >>>were asleep, Mother and Father Stark did not wish to disturb them, so they >>>stayed on the boat until they reached Troy, where they stayed onlya few >>>days, and then moved to Lansingburg, N.Y. where Mary H. Stark's mother, >>>who had come with them from England died and is buried. In the Fall of >>>1850 the family moved to Niskayuna, NY (where John and Harriet were born). >>>They then moved to Irelands Corners where Arthur, Frank, Charles Newton, >>>Charles Samuel, and James were born. In the Spring of 1870 the >>>family moved to Hudson NY and in the Spring of 1877 James Stark wife and >>>unmarried children moved to Toledo OH. " >>> >This is not correct. I wasted days trying to find the ship they arrived in >at the National Archives. It turned out that the Starks sailed to New York >on a freighter which stopped to unload part of their stores. They were >supposed to get off, but the children were sleeping so they stayed on the >the ship and as a result there is no record of their arrival. There were no >customs men to interrogate them when they disembarked on the Hudson >River. James left his family in rooms in Troy while he looked for work. >He finally gave up hope and dropped to his knees in a field to pray to God >for help. A religious group of non-farmers had established themselves in >N.Y. and a member saw James in the field. He offered him the job of man- >aging one of the their farms, and he did such a good job that at the end of >a year, they built him a brick house. >> >>> Mary Anne (1842-1912) >>> Frank Humphrey (1863-1934) >>> Elizabeth (1848-) >>> >These dates disagree with my charts. > >Sincerely, Carol Maginnis Dear James, Thank's for the Hebditch Record Book. Do you have a copy or the original book? Sorry I made some mistakes in my write-up. The marriages of Hannah and Betsy were found by another descendant---see LDS. But I may have incorrectly assumed that Ben's third dau. died young. The history says that James was the oldest on the farm in 1849, but I assumed he was the oldest in 1838 and his third sister had died. She may have been born after James for there are a lot of holes between 1814 and 1825, or she may have married. So many Dolphs named their children for dead siblings that I presumed too much. You reminded me that Arthur's middle name was Webber; I had called him Arthur W. to save space, neglecting the importance of the Webber. It seems an Arthur Webber was in the Kingsbury census in 1851 who may have married Harriet Stark for Hannah was living in Kingsbury when her daughter Harriet was born in 1848. I'll have to get the listing of A.W. in 1851 from the Mormons. I think I said Dinah Jr. stayed on the Burrow Hill farm, but she was also living in Kingsbury in 1845 when her dau. Harried was born. She probably returned to her parent's farm in 1848 due to the drought, just as James did. I assumed Betsy married after the family moved to Burrow Hill, but she could have married earlier and had children who had left home by 1851. After all, her sisters had married at 18 or 19. Next, I thought that Ben came from an Anglican family. Surfing on the net, I learned that all marriages had to be recorded by the Church of England before the Five Mile Act was passed----unfortunately, I forget when that was. I think I said that James emigrated because he had 6 people in his household when he actually had 9. I think you were right about the freighter. I think it did go right up the Hudson to Albany and thus avoided immigration officials. It was a Shaker who gave him the job of managing a farm. It must have been at Lansingburg since that is where his mil died in 1850 and the Shakers built him a brick house after a year's good crops. I sent my sil there but he didn't even come home with the location of Mary's grave. Do you think that the land in Nickayuna was also on Shaker land? I did go to Ireland's Corners, but I forget where it was. All I know is that James wasn't working for the Shakers when he moved to Toledo where Frank H. met his future wife. Lots to look up. Thanks again, Carol >>You mean Quaker don't you, rather than Shaker? Shakers were a celibate 19th >>century communal sect. -----Original Message----- From: C Maginnis <mac351@compaq.net> To: jhughes@changesurfer.com <jhughes@changesurfer.com> Date: Sunday, March 19, 2000 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Starks > No I mean Shaker. The Quakers are good farmers like the Amish. I should >know, I am one. >The Shakers were a sect that drew middleclass people who had never seen a >plow or a hoe and it was part of James' job to teach them how to farm. You >can still visit a Shaker farm near Albany which is where I thought James' >brick house was located until you started me thinking about Lansingburg. >Shaker houses are very much like Quaker's. Very easy to clean. You can >hang everything on a wall hook including the chairs. You can see that this >background made me laugh when I saw Kate Hepburn's house in Ct. She had a >system to raise all the furniture up to the ceiling when floods threatened. >The Shakers did not believe in sex and the communes in the east disappeared. >But they were still going strong in 1850.. ------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.stuartgdnarch.co.uk/frame19394.html STUART GARDEN ARCHITECTURE, BURROW HILL FARM, WIVELISCOMBE, SOMERSET, UK TELEPHONE: 44 (0) 1984 667458 FACSIMILE: 44 (0) 1984 667455 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are the nearest names/dates for the listed Starks (search limited to those born in Somerset) that you provided. Not particularly convincing unless you know that they were in the UK in 1881. Pointless searching for the women without additional info.- probably married regards John Marriage certificates will confirm parents names - if you have UK Public Record Office details in your part of the world ______________________________________________________________ William STARK Dwelling: 5 Ennismore Gds Mews Census Place: Westminster St Margaret, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341027 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0121 Folio 38 Page 72 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles HERRING M 27 M Ufford, Northampton, England Rel: Head Occ: Coachman Dom Serv Emma E. HERRING M 27 F Lynn, Norfolk, England Rel: Wife Frederick MILLS U 20 M Highwrth, Wiltshire, England Rel: Brdr Occ: Coachman Dom Serv William STARK U 31 M Taunton, Somerset, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Helper Dom Serv ___________________________and also a STARKS Dwelling: Post Office Census Place: Locking, Somerset, England Source: FHL Film 1341582 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2419 Folio 79 Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William STARKS M 30 M Loxton, Somerset, England Rel: Head Occ: Post Office Keeper (C S Off) Lucy STARKS M 28 F Locking, Somerset, England Rel: Wife Occ: Wife Annie STARKS 6 F Locking, Somerset, England Rel: Daur Occ: Daur Herbert William STARK (STARKS) 3 M Locking, Somerset, England Rel: Son Occ: Son Alice STARKS 2 F Locking, Somerset, England Rel: Daur Occ: Daur Francis Charles STARKS 1 m M Locking, Somerset, England Rel: Son Occ: Son ___________________________________________________________ John STARK Dwelling: New House Cottage (2) Census Place: Upton, Somerset, England Source: FHL Film 1341567 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2358 Folio 141 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John STARK M 26 M Upton, Somerset, England Rel: Head Occ: Ag Lab Sarah STARK M 24 F Huishchampflower, Somerset, England Rel: Wife Mary A. STARK 1 F Milverton, Somerset, England Rel: Daur Bessie STARK 1 m F Upton, Somerset, England Rel: Daur ____________________________________________________________Also a STARKS Dwelling: Witherham Census Place: Kings Brompton, Brompton Regis, Somerset, England Source: FHL Film 1341567 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2358 Folio 7 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John STARKS M 27 M Upton, Somerset, England Rel: Head Occ: Farm Labourer Elizth. STARKS M 29 F K Brompton, Somerset, England Rel: Wife Occ: Labs Wife Harriet STARKS 7 F K Brompton, Somerset, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar James STARKS 4 M K Brompton, Somerset, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Wm. STARKS 3 M K Brompton Rel: Son Occ: Labourers Son Sidney Jas. STARKS 1 M K Brompton Rel: Son Occ: Labourers Son Elizth. STARKS 4 m F K Brompton Rel: Daur Occ: Labs Daug Thomas TAKLE W 75 M Bampton, Devon, England Rel: Wifes Father Occ: Labr On Farm ____________________________________________________ Arthur STARK Dwelling: 8 Bryanston Sqr Census Place: St Marylebone, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341033 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0147 Folio 53 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Louisa M. T. CATOR U 50 F Shelbrooke, York, England Rel: Daug Head Occ: Annuitant Sarah BIRD U 30 F Little Laver, Essex, England Rel: Serv Occ: Cook Elizabeth HISCOCK U 32 F Ringwood, Hampshire, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid Lydia WORKMAN U 18 F Dursley, Gloucester, England Rel: Serv Occ: Kitchenmaid Arthur STARK U 22 M Taunton, Somerset, England Rel: Serv Occ: Footman Edward STARK U 18 M Taunton, Somerset, England !!!!!!!! ?????????? Do you have an Edward - cousin perhaps Rel: Serv Occ: Footman _______________________________________________________________ Dwelling: 3 Nursery Cott Census Place: Foots Cray, Kent, England Source: FHL Film 1341203 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0858 Folio 46 Page 37 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas HILLS M 23 M North Cray, Kent, England Rel: Head Occ: Gardener Martha HILLS M 23 F Brenchley, Kent, England Rel: Wife Percy T. HILLS 7 m M Sidcup, Kent, England Rel: Son Charles STARKES U 21 M Compton Bishop, Somerset, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Gardener | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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